Why did You Vote for Kerry?

Because I Hated Bush!

Published on March 3, 2004 By aconservative In Democrat

My daughter invited me Tuesday evening to watch the election returns from Super Tuesday. She is Democrat and she voted for Edwards. There were about 10 couples in the group of which majority were for Kerry.

I am always interested in finding out why one votes for a certain candidate. When I asked those who voted for Kerry, all of them replied because they hated Bush. Some of the reasons they gave me were – the normal liberal playbook answers. He is taking the country to an opposite direction. He invaded Iraq to retaliate when Saddam Hussein tried to assassinate his father. There is a lot of people without jobs. Tax rebate for the rich. He is not funding the “No Kid Left Behind”.

I did not try to argue with these answers, because I know it could only come from somebody higher. These were not caused by their own research or knowledge of current events. It came from a playbook. And what amazed me is – they are all professional people with the ability to think.

But if one analyzes their answer – Because they hate Bush, I suddenly realized that their hatred to Pres Bush has more weight that what Kerry or Edwards had offered them as a reason for voting. If this is not case, their answer should have been because Kerry or Edwards will do this or this or this or this.

During the lengthy campaign, Kerry had promised a lot of things – that he will tax the rich; that he will place the US Armed Forces under the UN, the preparedness gap, and many more.

So as I was driving home, I question why those who voted for him are not vocal about what he will do for the country or for them. Are they not proud of what Kerry will do for them? For the country? If they would have asked me why I am voting for Bush, I would have discussed a whole list of his accomplishments and they are many. Liberals may question the veracity of this statement, because in their eyes if what Bush did does not include money flowing for the benefit of unions and lawyers, then it is not an accomplishment.

To me this President does not flip and then flop. He knows the meaning of consistency!

aconservative

Comments (Page 1)

BulbousHead

on Mar 03, 2004

But if one analyzes their answer – Because they hate Bush, I suddenly realized that their hatred to Pres Bush has more weight that what Kerry or Edwards had offered them as a reason for voting. If this is not case, their answer should have been because Kerry or Edwards will do this or this or this or this.

I disagree on this; I think "because I hate Bush" is a perfectly valid reason. To me, it is far more critical to get Bush out of the White House then it is to put someone super-special in. I don't care if Kerry is a mediocre president or even a crummy one; I am confident that whatever he is will not be as bad as Bush.

To make a very silly analogy, it's like asking me if I want a piece of white bread for dinner or a moldy piece of white bread for dinner. Sure, a piece of white bread is a shitty meal, and I don't have anything great to say about it, but it sure as hell beats the moldy one.

bluejazz

on Mar 04, 2004

Some of the reasons they gave me were – the normal liberal playbook answers. He is taking the country to an opposite direction. He invaded Iraq to retaliate when Saddam Hussein tried to assassinate his father. There is a lot of people without jobs. Tax rebate for the rich. He is not funding the “No Kid Left Behind”.

Those all seem like pretty good reasons to me. And it's not like the right doesn't have their own playbook of answers to those issues with conservative slant.

[quote]To me this President does not flip and then flop. He knows the meaning of consistency![/qute]
Sure he's consistent....consistently bad, or doing the wrong thing, in the judgement of a great many people.

aconservative

on Mar 04, 2004

BulbousHead and bluejazz (Unregistered User)

Your comments makes me laugh! The election was on March 2, 2004. Wake up it's not November yet! The ballot did not carry Bush name. The ballots carried Kerry, Edwards, Sharpton, Dean, etc. otherwise I would have asked "Why did you vote for Kerry against Bush?"

Such an answer is kinda childish, asinine, senseless, halfwitted that only liberals can understand.

I like your comments when you said you don't care if Kerry is a mediocre President or a crummy one for it reflects what the Democrats have been doing when they elected Liberal Presidents like Johnson, Carter, and Clinton. Democrats lost the Congress in 1994 and you guys will never get it back. You are starting to lose the Senate, I predict that complete annihilation will happen in a larger scale this November.

And if you ask the regular Joe SixPack and Jill SixPack they will tell you that they would never elect a mediocre or crummy President or a Massachusetts liberal - they will tell you - Never - Nada - Zilch! There are still more proud Americans in this God blessed country who haven't lost their wit and they will re-elect George Bush inspite of the negative campaigning that the liberals are doing.

Identify what is bad against Bush and let's debate them - let's compare his actions aginst what your candidate's actions should have been based on his voting record in the Senate or against the records of Johnson, Carter and Clinton. And if you wish let's debate Kerry's military record in Vietnam and when came back!

Have a Nice Day!

aconservative

Ignorance is Blix

on Mar 04, 2004

I agree, for the most part, with aconservative.

Not only do many Kerry supports have ZERO ideas of what they want him to do or change... Kerry doesn't really either.

So far in this campaign he has basically told us how bad we, as Americans have, and how much worse it will get with another four years of Bush. It makes you wonder if three years ago the US was in the best shape on it's life and Bush came and turned America into a waste land. I just don't see it.

Bush came out in the last 24 hours and named Kerry, explaining how he has been in Washington long enough to be on both sides of virtuallly every issue and the facts back Bush up here. Look at Kerry's voting record.

The truth of the matter is that when debate time comes, Kerry is going to get squashed by Bush. It's going to take a miracle for Kerry to look anything but silly, wishy-washy, vague, and out-of-touch with the rest of America. Bush is running on issue and policies. Kerry is running on scare tactics and socialism.

Randy Spire

on Mar 04, 2004

I agree, i think Kerry is a spineless idiot. while bushed saved on account of a spine, he's a bigger idiot. tough choice. go nader.

jeblackstar

on Mar 05, 2004

Of course, you could go and look at JohnKerry.com and figure out what his views are.

But that would take more effort than making asinine statements.

Cheers

BulbousHead

on Mar 05, 2004

The truth of the matter is that when debate time comes, Kerry is going to get squashed by Bush. It's going to take a miracle for Kerry to look anything but silly

Have you ever heard the President speak off the cuff??? It's horrifying.

jeblackstar

on Mar 05, 2004

No kidding, have you watched the democratic debates? Kerry and Edwards were the most comprehensible men at the table, but Kerry was clear, consise, and somthing Bush has a problem with, comprehensible.

Cheers

bluejazz

on Mar 05, 2004

Do not be mistaken, just because I expressed my views on this topic doesn't mean I voted for Kerry. I never said I did. I haven't particularly been impressed with him, but I'll still vote for him in November because he's closer to my views than Bush. As for your playbook, that seems to mainly be calling anyone who disagrees with you a socialist. Resorting to name calling gets old very quick.

That being said, I voted for my candidate based on his stance of the issues, not some nebulous idea of "electablity" as determined by the press. That's the easy way out. I prefer to follow the issues pick who I will vote for based on who's beliefs I agree with the most. Flip-flopping on issues is hardly an indictment of somebody. Frankly, I would HOPE that people would be allowed to change their views on things as they grew older and their life experience changed how they view the world. Close-mindedness isn't what I would consider a good trait, especially for a leader.

As for "complete annihlation", I doubt it. But if it did happen, eventually the pedulum would swing back the other way again, I'm confident of that. I'm not convinced that "Joe SixPack and Jill SixPack" will ALL side with Bush this year. The polls (at the moment) either say that Kerry will beat Bush, or that the nation is split 45/45/10. "The Great Uniter"/"Compassionate Conservative" has done nothing but divide people.

And I stand by my comments. They're valid complaints that non-conservatives have. Consistancy isn't the only factor that defines good leadership.

BulbousHead

on Mar 05, 2004

otherwise I would have asked "Why did you vote for Kerry against Bush?"

You're right; I will clarify. I voted for Kerry because I believe that he has the best chance of defeating Bush.

for it reflects what the Democrats have been doing when they elected Liberal Presidents like Johnson, Carter, and Clinton.

Clinton was mediocre? The majority of the country disagreed for eight straight years. Clinton was the best President since Kennedy.

Democrats lost the Congress in 1994 and you guys will never get it back. You are starting to lose the Senate, I predict that complete annihilation will happen in a larger scale this November.

We'll see! The country is losing its pseudo-patriotic fascination with Bush's rhetoric. Only November will tell.

And if you ask the regular Joe SixPack and Jill SixPack they will tell you that they would never elect a mediocre or crummy President or a Massachusetts liberal

I wouldn't wear the vote of Joe SixPack as a badge of pride.

are still more proud Americans in this God blessed country who haven't lost their wit and they will re-elect George Bush inspite of the negative campaigning that the liberals are doing.

More proud Americans voted for Gore; don't forget that. And as far as campaigning goes, nothing is dirtier than using pictures of the destruction of the World Trade Center for political gain.

Identify what is bad against Bush and let's debate them - let's compare his actions aginst what your candidate's actions should have been based on his voting record in the Senate or against the records of Johnson, Carter and Clinton.

Johnson, Carter, and Clinton are irrelevant, unless you're prepared to defend Nixon. In the meantime, joeuser.com is rife with my complaints about Bush. You know what the Democrats' beef with the President is.

And if you wish let's debate Kerry's military record in Vietnam and when came back!

Not a wise move until the President clarifies his National Guard (tee hee!) story.

aconservative

on Mar 05, 2004

Order Please! (Hammer hits the table).

I haven’t heard a valid reason or the real reason. Let’s regroup and define the problem.

Problem: Why did you vote for Kerry, because I Hate Bush.

(Let’s establish a situation why Liberals hate Bush. Let’s pick the invasion of Iraq.)

The liberal hates Bush because what he did, he invaded Iraq. (Are you with me so far?)

Liberal answers: “True”.

So I ask the same question to a conservative and his answer is he likes Bush even tho he invaded Iraq.

The question that we should ask ourselves then - is why does the liberal hates Bush and the conservative likes Bush for the same situation. Did Bush create the hate? Did Bush create the love? Obviously, not.

These feelings are caused by how each individual perceives the situation based on his core beliefs. Liberals hates Bush because they perceive that invading Iraq is wrong. Conservatives like him because they perceive that he is freeing people who lost their freedom.

Your perception triggered the hate. Nobody else. (Is there a “shrink” in the house?)

So to answer the question – “Why did you vote for Kerry?” Correct answer: It was my decision.

(This article would not have been written. – Ha Ha!)

jeblackstar

on Mar 05, 2004

Alrighty then aconservative, how about this, why did most republicans vote against Clinton the second time? Because they hated him. And to be honest it was a pettier hate than democrats feel towards Bush. After all, Clinton only lied about Sex. How many men in the United States have lied about Sex? Admittedly, most of us lie about having More Sex than we really do, but alot of us have lied about it. Bush misled people about Iraq. That's a good deal bigger issue thinks me.

Besides, I'm voting for Kerry because I think tax cuts for the wealthy are irresponsible, I also think that endangering the environment by allowing big polluters to continue polluting is irresponsible and dangerous. I am not voting for Kerry because of his stance on Iraq. I think that was a war worth fighting, just not for the reasons that Bush gave.

How bout them apples?

Are those good enough not hating-Bush answers? or are you going to dismiss me as a Bush hater because it suits your biased interest to do so?

Cheers

aconservative

on Mar 05, 2004

jeblackstar

I agree to all what you said. You make a decision not to vote for Bush because you decided to that. His actions did not make you do what you want to do. It is your decision.

I will vote for Bush because it is my decision. It is my perceptions that make me do what I want to do.

If your wife blames you that you made her angry, you answer her, "Sweetheart, nobody can make you angry. You are angry because you decided to be angry." Use my example above.

As human beings, this is the thing that separates as from other animals, our own free will. A free will to make a decision. The trainer can make Shamu, the whale, do what the trainer wants Shamu to do, because Shamu does not have its own free will. As humans we do.

Included with this free will of ours is a word that many don't even know. It's RESPONSIBILITY.

Anything that happens to us today is a decision that we make yesterday.

Social ills of our community are the result of people not accepting responsibility. I fervently wish that this word (Responsibility) is emphaized more in our schools, churches and wherever we congregate.

Let's take a high school drop out.

If his teacher inplants into his mind that if he ever drops out of school, there is a big, big chance that he will end up poor. I say "chance" because the richest man in the world was a college drop out. But when a kid drops out from school, goes into drugs, have babies before they are 18, then they are destined to the poor house. Those who say, "Don't worry the government will take care of you." are also guilty of being irresponsible.

I am not trying to redicule the poor, the homeless, etc. We, the people, (not the government) should get more involved in alleviating their miseries. If the government wants to help, the money should be given to faith institutions and churches, because this is their line of work. The ministers, priests, deacons, and other evangelical professionals exist because they decided to go into a profession to help other people. Compare them to the case worker that works for the county. You'll agree that there is a lot of difference.

When the government gets involved, the task becomes politicized, and the people we are trying to alleviate, will never learn and understand that Responsibility is part of the solution. This is happening today. Politicians expect a show of gratitude if they are forced to help the downtrodden. They are helping the poor because they want their votes.

The minister will do it because he loves those whom he is helping. There are no deja vus to worry about.

Help me spread the word.

aconservative

BulbousHead

on Mar 05, 2004

You are angry because you decided to be angry

Ludicrous. No one has 100% control over his or her every emotional response.

The rest was a semi-coherent, completely tangential rant on which I decline to comment...

jeblackstar

on Mar 05, 2004

Gonna have to go with bulbous head on this one.

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